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Draft 2004, DB

March 29, 2004 by Steel Phantom

Draft 2004, Defensive Backs

Draft 2004, Defensive Backs

 

This is the first of a (short) series towards our final Big Board of Value.Since the Steeler secondary has been the root of much evil for the past two seasons, we�ll begin there.To be sure, the FO already has taken some measures to address this: selecting upside speed players Troy Polamalu and Ike Taylor in the 2003 draft and, more recently, achieving addition by subtracting both Dewayne Washington and Brent Alexander.Still, considerable need remains; now, by way of introduction to that:

 

  • CB:It all depends on Ike.Reportedly Taylor is having a tremendous off-season; if so, the PS may already have their lockdown CB.Otherwise, while Townsend played good ball in a starting role last season, considering the wave of big WR entering the league, DT is best cast as a 3rd CB.That�s not all bad; after all, in the nickel co-base, your 3rd corner has to be equivalent to your 3rd LB, or in the Steelers� case, their 3rd D-lineman.Townsend may approach that status; still, there�s plenty of room between Ike and DT, either way.Future-forward, well, Townsend has two years to play; for purposes of discussion, we�ll say Chad Scott has one (or, for rook pool purposes, none).

 

  • In general, the Steeler backups are small CB: Fair, Iwuoma and maybe BJ Tucker or Nashville Dyer.The PS has the numbers but no proven quality.

 

  • FS:The Steelers have no FS at all.Polamalu is a SS; Logan was a SS too and, if Hope were a FS then Logan would not have been brought back to start next season at that spot.While all three are useful players, and Polamalu may become something more, none have real single high capability, or the frame to cover TE.

 

  • In the D-Side Overview published last January, it was purported that, so long as the Steeler Front 7 is constructed in the Blitzburgh mode, the Rush 4, Cover 2 scheme cobbled up for 2003 is a no-go.That strongly suggests some secondary template with a division by 3 such as man out, single high or Cover 3.Either would allow those (many) SS to interchange with the LB, especially Porter and Bell, getting pressure on opposing QB that the D-line isn�t likely to produce.Off that, a frame-worthy, single high FS with sideline-to-sideline speed is as great a need as CB, maybe greater.

 

Still, you get what you can but just as a means to establish some parameters, consider this survey, from NFL. com�s Draft History.

 

By the numbers, CB and FS selected from 1998-2003:

 

CB

1998

1999

2000

2001

2002

2003

Average/Avatar

On the board at 1.11

3rd

3rd

1st

1st

2nd

2nd

Second

Marcus Trufant

1st round total

4

4

3

3

4

5

Four

On the board @ 44th selection

7th

7th

4th

5th

5th

8th

Sixth

Patrick Surtain

Total thru 2nd

9

7

9

7

7

8

Eight

On the board @ 75th selection

10th

10th

10th

11th

10th

9th

Tenth

William Peterson

Total thru 3rd

12

10

12

12

12

11

Eleven, twelve.

On the board @ 106th selection

13th

13th

15th

15th

15th

13th

Fourteenth

Brian Williams

 

Looks like four per round, on average.A couple of things worth noting:

 

  • 1998 was the year of the CB, especially in the 2nd round where Artell Hawkins, Patrick Surtain, Brain Kelly and Samari Rolle were drafted 43, 44, 45, and 46; Charles Woodson, Duane Starks and Antoine Winfield were in that class too.A similar number were drafted in 1999 but past Bailey and McAlister (top 10), the quality was well down.

 

  • 2003 was the year of the big hybrid CB/S with nine DB drafted in a run beginning at 28 (Andre Woolfolk) and continuing through Drayton Florence (45).However, it�s worth noting though that the 2003 draft was weak in both OT and WR.Leaving the former, where this class is little better, the WR group is much, much stronger.We can expect 6-7 WR to be taken in the 1st round; that alone should push the CB numbers back towards average.

 

And FS:

 

FS

1998

1999

2000

2001

2002

2003

Average/Avatar

On the board at 1.11

1st

1st

1st

1st

2nd

1st

First

Roy Williams

1st round total

1

0

0

1

2

0

One

On the board @ 44th selection

2nd

1st

4th

3rd

4th

3rd

Third

Brain Dawkins

Darren Sharper

Total thru 2nd

2

1

5

3

4

3

Three

On the board @ 75th selection

3rd

3rd

5th

4th

5th

4th

Fourth

None noteworthy

Total thru 3rd

3

2

5

3

4

4

Three, four

On the board @ 106th selection

4th

4th

5th

5th

5th

6th

Fifth

Lance Schulters

 

Both positions, transposed to the class of 2004:

 

 

CB

FS

Remarks

BPA

Value cluster

Could be on the board at 1.11

DeAngelo Hall

Dunta Robinson

Sean Taylor

Pass on Robinson

Kellen Winslow, TE

Will Smith, OLB

Phil Rivers, QB

WR, DE.

In the gap

Will Poole

 

 

 

RT

4th to 8th CB

 

44th overall

 

2nd to 4th FS

Ahmad Carroll

Kevin Smith

Derrick Strait

Joey Thomas?

Chris Gamble

Jeremy LeSueur

Derrick Strait?

Sean Jones

Matt Ware

Of those DB, Sean Jones is value #1, except as Strait may be a 2/1 type player.

Ben Watson, TE

Kelly Butler, RT

OG/OC

In the gap

Any of the above

Matt Ware

Ware is a trade down value

 

 

9th to 11th CB

 

75th overall

 

3rd to 5th FS

One above

 

R. Colclough

Greg Brooks

 

Matt Ware

S. Schweigart

 

 

Past Carroll and Smith above, I see little difference between CB 6 and CB 9.

Derrick Hamilton, WR

DT, CB

In the gap

Any below

 

 

 

 

13th to 15th CB

 

106th overall

 

4th to 6th FS

Marcel Almond

Rich Gardner

 

Roc Alexander

Bruce Thornton

 

(K. Millbrook)

(A. Parker)

S. Schweigart

J. Shivers

M. Williams

 

Tim Anderson, DT

OG/OT types.

 

 

 

 

 

Remarks:

 

First day CB suspects from this class might be characterized as:

 

  • The swift:Hall, Robinson and Carroll ran 4.34 at the Combine; Hall and Carroll jumped out of the gym; all are strong enough to play.While some regard Dunta Robinson as #1 at the position, IMO that rank belongs to DeAngelo Hall.Hall is 1.11 worthy, although he may not be BPA at that spot.I don�t see that value with Robinson, although I do believe he�ll be a top 20 pick.Ahmad Carroll is about as athletic as Hall but just a bit smaller.Pre-Combine, he was considered a rising 2nd round pick; now, he�s a late first, IMO, headed for the St. Louis Rams.Roc Alexander ran fast too but that won�t get him into the 1st day.Alexander has some injury issues; that risk factor will limit him to the early 4th range.There are character factors too, which will keep him out of Pittsburgh altogether.Keith Millbrook of Hawaii might move up into the 4th round range; Millbrook ran sub 4.4 at 6-1, 202# and did 21 reps. Anthony Parker is another 2nd day athlete; though more likely a safety, Parker does have the size and speed to play press against those big WR entering the league.

 

  • The raw:Chris Gamble once was considered an elite pick but I don�t see it.Gamble didn�t get under 4.5 in his Pro Day, even though timed on that very fast track in Columbus (where short, slow Mike Doss ran 4.4 or so last spring).Worse, Gamble posted a Wonderlic 9; IMO, this player is dubious value at 44, let alone 11.Joey Thomas is bigger, stronger, faster and more agile than Gamble; while he played at a low level (Montana State), he just can�t be less skilled.The question with Thomas is whether he�s Charles Tillman (a player who could help immediately) or Drayton Florence (a downstream developmental prospect). Or Joseph Jefferson, Roosevelt Williams�Then there�s Kevin Smith of McNeese State; Smith got high marks at the Senior Bowl; after that, he fattened to 200#, struggled to run and busted his agility drills.However, Smith was a team leader at McNeese State, while there may be some character issues (related to confidence/arrogance or coachability) associated with Thomas.Smith, along with Strait could be value @ 44; Thomas too (pending interview) but he may fall to 75, as did Derek Ross and William Peterson, two talents with inferable issues.That said, considering the paucity of speed/size prospects at the position, I�m guessing both Gamble and Thomas will be going out (too) early.

 

  • The polished:The pair of Will Poole and Derrick Strait once was regarded as most pro-ready, though neither were ever described as high upside types.Of those, Poole has held value through this evaluation season but, for whatever reason, Strait has not.Poole looks to be the 3rd CB in this class; I�d think he�d be attractive to Cover 2 contenders like Indy or Carolina.I see Strait is a CB/FS �tweener on the order of Corey Chavous or Eugene Wilson.Those players were drafted in the low-mid 30�s and I think Strait will be too.Maybe earlier, for example the Eagles might use him as a 3rd CB this season while grooming him to take over for Brian Dawkins.

 

  • Big school, big CB:Jeremy LeSueur had a good Senior Bowl, which moved his stock from second day to second round.However, he didn�t post a time at the Combine, and didn�t at his Pro Day either.Speed is a question with this player, as is agility.Marcel Almond was the 2nd corner at USC (behind Poole) but could be a better pro.Almond showed in Indy at 209# and did 21 reps but he couldn�t run under 4.6.However, he did have a good Pro Day, averaging less than 4.5.Almond has played CB for about 1-� seasons; prior to that, he was a WR but his main sport was track, where he had some success in the decathlon.He has size, strength, enough speed and agility, and good ball skills; however, there are some questions about his football toughness.Rich Gardner of PSU is moving up steadily, as did Bryan Scott in 2003.

 

  • The weak and small:Ricardo Colclough is another CB that showed well at the Senior Bowl; however, Colclough has been slowed by a hamstring ailment in this evaluation season.Additionally, he did a Gamble-esque 11 Wonderlic and just 8 reps�� Though evidently weak and not too bright, Colclough has some value as a developmental CB and PR; that said, those are two aspects where the PS do have some numbers.Finally, both Kerwan Ratliff and Nathan Vasher ran themselves out of the first day, posting +4.6 in the 40. That�s not good for any DB; for small ones, it�s a ticket to football oblivion.

 

And the FS:

 

  • Sean Taylor has had a tough off-season; he couldn�t get under 4.50 at the Combine; he did 12 reps there, which isn�t awful for a DB but is very poor for a 230# player; he fired off a 10 in the Wonderlic.IMO, this prospect could fall some and be back in play at 1.11.

 

  • Matt Ware is a quality single high FS prospect but his agility drills do not suggest much future as a CB; that Mike Williams, Reggie Williams and Rash Woods serially toasted him confirms that inference.However, Ware is a SoCal guy; Malibu and UCLA; he could be said to be Malibu tough.

 

  • Stuart Schweigart has all the tools: strength, speed, size and intelligence; he just won�t tackle.That�s a disaster-in-waiting at FS, as we saw with the last double S here, Scott Shields.IMO, Schweigart is a 4th round prospect; his prime value earlier would be if some other team took him, so pushing Matt Ware towards the Steelers� 3rd slot.

 

  • Jason Shivers, Will Allen, Madieu Williams have little to offer that Chris Hope doesn�t provide.The same may be said of Dexter Reid and Ettric Pruitt.

 

  • For value at the spot, my first day DB pick is Sean Jones, R2.If Houston gets Taylor at 1.10, Jones may come through; if not, the Texans will snap him up in R2.

 

  • Second day sleeper:Rashad Washington.

 

Afterword:

 

I�d encourage you to read the player profiles at NFL. com.Skip the test results though; those are demonstrably inaccurate as we saw last spring when that site persisted in listing Sammy Davis and Dennis Weathersby as 4.6 guys when in fact they�d run 4.41 and 4.38 respectively.That same site does a fine job tracking Pro Day results, with Gil Brandt at the controls.Draftxchange has some free Combine results, a rare commodity today.

 

Next Time:

 

DE and QB or maybe just O-line.

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