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Stillers-Poebirds Postgame Analysis and Grades has been posted by Still Mill at Stillers.com.

[LenSherwood Profile]

Am I mistaken or did Dick line up his d backs ten yards off the line of scrimmage on every third and 10-16 yards, meaning they needed to catch and make one move to get past the yard markers and usually got about 20?? I don't know if Dick really has anyone who can rush the passer though except Harrison. He kept trying to blitz Pola but that ended up with jack shit. Pola is not what he used to be and got easily blocked by that tiny Raven RB.

In the analysis of elite QBs, Ben is there but barely. His inconsistency is just maddening. Now, no doubt not having a running game thanks to the Steelers thinking Archer or an untried rookie were all they needed to back up Bell meant trouble. But that QB rating... ugh. And you can pin all those loses to shit teams on his sub par play over the years. Do Brady or Rodgers have that many losses to shit teams? Nooo...

On the bright side... they won't go get absolutely demolished in Foxboro. The offense made great strides and Bell is a true stud now. Defense... not so good. They have to concentrate on getting legitimate cover guys, a LB who can rush the passer. I still think they need a true left offensive tackle and Miller's days are numbered. Plus, get a fucking backup and cut Pee Pee so he can go back to starring in Youth Football...

[PGHeaven Profile]

Still Mill provides the Ham on Wry. Another great season long game by game detailed breakdown flavored by his hilarity.

Mill provides the granular analysis. I like to talk about the ideology. Make no mistake - we rode stutter Bell all the way to the Wild Cards. Without him , the Steelers were exposed to be a mediocre gang of underachieving drunks

How does this happen when you supposedly have stars and studs at many positions? I say that it comes from the top. I think this organization began courting fleas and disease the exact moment Danny Boy the castle dweller used the superbowl podium to proclaim his infatuation and homosexual attraction to Barack Hussein Obama. And that slide was lowlighted by Mike Tomlin's admission that he thinks there is racism and black suppression.

WHAT THE FUCK ABOUT FOOTBALL ASSHOLES??


As I previously stated - It was surprising to me that we finished with a winning season and made the playoffs at all so I am not crestfallen by the early exit from the 2014-2015 playoffs. Will the Pittsburgh homer sports press hammer Tomlin the owners and the upper management this offseason? I DOUBT IT!

This means we will get sucked into yet another season of hope in 2015. It is like Lucy pulling the footabll away on Charlie Brown. Lucy Tomlin will talk about the going back into the lab again this year.

For WHAT? To learn? To prepare? To scheme? To assemble a professional staff?

FUCK NO - it will be to sharpen his Lucy skills

[isfry Profile]

11-5? CHECK.
We win the North? CHECK.
We beat the Fudgepackers in the Super Bowl? Nope. Decided to shit the bed against an inferior opponent at home instead.

Todd Haley? Appeared to have not realized until 15 minutes before game time that Bell would not play. No Plan. F

Mitchell? F

Refs? F

[LenSherwood Profile]

"The TD drive was mostly the Ravens just jamming the ball down Dick’s throat as though he were a homo porn star..."

I think in this game Mill, LeBeau didn't just take it in the throat. He got rotissaried...

[fred Profile]

Baltimores DC Peas (of crap) was able to generate "instant pressure" as you said above. You say Beachum helped Tate and left his guy to sack Ben. Well, that was Peas directing 3 rushers at Beachum, Tate picked up one other, but Peas knows 3 is larger than 2. Ben had NO time to look downfield. 3rd and 4 got a sack. (Peas did the same to Adams as soon as he could).
Dopey Dick took the other philosophy, rush 5 make sure each one 'engages' his man and let the LBs make the play. Only thing with LBs is that they weigh 280lbs they are not cover guys, Flako had plenty of time to let his wideouts drag the secondary to 20yds and hit TE underneath. 3rd and 13 no problem.
You are exactly right Bell superstar enough to give cover.
please Mr T. Give Mr. LeBeau the same respect that you gave to Bruce Arians. Grab Rex Ryan while you can. Haley and Ryan can build a dynasty for you.

[Steelerssix Profile]

Excellent analysis Mill that had me fired up as much as I was watching the game and whining on the game thread. Thankfully you spread some wit in there to lessen the pain. Can't find anything to disagree with from any of the previous posts. Agree PGHeaven that this is Football keep the other junk outta here especially the useless drivel from that end of the spectrum. I immediately thought of Belichick when Tomlin's comments about racism was brought up by PG. Imagine the blank "are you some kind of idiot" stare Belichick would give in that moment.

I said in the game thread that as soon as Harrison started getting near Flako and disrupting their offense they immediately went to the roll out to mitigate any damage.

It still seems to me that they actually believed they did not have a chance w/o Bell and played like it. When have you ever seen Miller have such a bad game? Ben was very inconsistent and made some piss poor decisions as already detailed here.

I never like to whine about the refs, but the poes only flagged twice for only 14 yds is BS.

The stats say poes were only 4-11 on 3rd down, but it seemed to me every damn time it was 3rd and fill-in-the-blank it was 10 yds or greater and we gave it up.

11-5 will end up satisfying the powers that be and we will be stuck with the same coaches and management.

How many times did we have to hear collinsworth gushing over thuggs last night? Ughh.

This was my first year on this forum and I thoroughly enjoyed the discussions and wit. I am very disappointed that they aren't going all the way if for no other reason than I won't be looking at this forum everyday expecting the continuing discussion not to mention the vocab lessons! Hopefully that team from Texas goes out and we will hold on tenuously to the only team with 6 SB wins. I just hope the poes do not win it this year, but they are dangerous and are well coached and with competent management. Now holding my breath until the draft.

Happy New Year to all!

[Pommah Profile]

Beaten in every phase of the game.

Coaching worst of all.

[SteelTank Profile]

Not that it matters, but the Steelers would have played Denver next week... We were the third seed because we beat Indy. Baltimore is the 6th seed and I hope the beat New England.

[Steelers76 Profile]

Great review to end the season on. Couldn't have put it better myself.

It astounded me as well at the complete lack of depth behind Bell. I was fine with Blount being released when he was for what he did, but they obviously had NO back-up plan in case something happened to Bell. Not saying Harris will be nothing, but an undrafted, unproven rookie who wasn't even the star on his shitty Wake Forrest shouldn't have been Plan B.(At least not yet.) As I and others have mentioned, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, a 6 year vet who eclipsed 1,000 yards in 2 of those seasons, was just sitting around with nothing to do this season. Tate shouldn't have even been needed, as G.E. should've already been here for 6 weeks when Bell got dinged up.

And speaking of Pee Pee Archer; As you pointed out in your review of The Chiefs game, KC's DeAnthony Thomas is what Archer SHOULD'VE been for us this year. "Should've" been, if Colbert didn't over reach for him like this team had no other pressing needs at draft time. SMDH.

[Ohio Profile]

Great review to end the season on. Couldn't have put it better myself.

It astounded me as well at the complete lack of depth behind Bell. I was fine with Blount being released when he was for what he did, but they obviously had NO back-up plan in case something happened to Bell. Not saying Harris will be nothing, but an undrafted, unproven rookie who wasn't even the star on his shitty Wake Forrest shouldn't have been Plan B.(At least not yet.) As I and others have mentioned, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, a 6 year vet who eclipsed 1,000 yards in 2 of those seasons, was just sitting around with nothing to do this season. Tate shouldn't have even been needed, as G.E. should've already been here for 6 weeks when Bell got dinged up.

And speaking of Pee Pee Archer; As you pointed out in your review of The Chiefs game, KC's DeAnthony Thomas is what Archer SHOULD'VE been for us this year. "Should've" been, if Colbert didn't over reach for him like this team had no other pressing needs at draft time. SMDH.

Ok... I see a lot of misunderstanding around this site... The Problem with the Backup plan is as simple as this :

Ben Roethlisberger hates small speedy guys. Archer is not the first and I am sure will not be the last until Ben ends his career. Ben likes big bodies. Unbelievable as it might sound but he kept throwing the ball to Justin Brown covered. But he didn't throw the ball to Archer when was free. Archer played almost 50% of the snaps. He was very unlucky, because the one play that could have changed his career was called back. He scored a TD, if somebody here forgot !!! He was always running free. Ben didn't want to throw it to him. And this is a thing that already happened before in Ben's career.

Now... in what regards the RB bakcup plan the only mistake that could be debated is Blount release. If he was still with us it would have been different. But now we have a bigger problem. Bell is at his best when he plays the full game. Who is going to come as backup plan ? It's obvious... Nobody will accept it knowing that they will not play... So this leaves us with Bell, Harris and Archer for next year... One can only hope that nothing happens to Bell. But chances are that we are going to be in the same situation next year

[Steelers76 Profile]

Great review to end the season on. Couldn't have put it better myself.

It astounded me as well at the complete lack of depth behind Bell. I was fine with Blount being released when he was for what he did, but they obviously had NO back-up plan in case something happened to Bell. Not saying Harris will be nothing, but an undrafted, unproven rookie who wasn't even the star on his shitty Wake Forrest shouldn't have been Plan B.(At least not yet.) As I and others have mentioned, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, a 6 year vet who eclipsed 1,000 yards in 2 of those seasons, was just sitting around with nothing to do this season. Tate shouldn't have even been needed, as G.E. should've already been here for 6 weeks when Bell got dinged up.

And speaking of Pee Pee Archer; As you pointed out in your review of The Chiefs game, KC's DeAnthony Thomas is what Archer SHOULD'VE been for us this year. "Should've" been, if Colbert didn't over reach for him like this team had no other pressing needs at draft time. SMDH.

Ok... I see a lot of misunderstanding around this site... The Problem with the Backup plan is as simple as this :

Ben Roethlisberger hates small speedy guys. Archer is not the first and I am sure will not be the last until Ben ends his career. Ben likes big bodies. Unbelievable as it might sound but he kept throwing the ball to Justin Brown covered. But he didn't throw the ball to Archer when was free. Archer played almost 50% of the snaps. He was very unlucky, because the one play that could have changed his career was called back. He scored a TD, if somebody here forgot !!! He was always running free. Ben didn't want to throw it to him. And this is a thing that already happened before in Ben's career.

Now... in what regards the RB bakcup plan the only mistake that could be debated is Blount release. If he was still with us it would have been different. But now we have a bigger problem. Bell is at his best when he plays the full game. Who is going to come as backup plan ? It's obvious... Nobody will accept it knowing that they will not play... So this leaves us with Bell, Harris and Archer for next year... One can only hope that nothing happens to Bell. But chances are that we are going to be in the same situation next year

I don't remember Archer being open too often. And when he was, the "fastest guy in last year's draft" got swallowed up pretty good. Same on kick returns, which has nothing to do with Ben liking big guys or not. He was an over reach by Colbert, plain and simple. Even the Kool-Aid drinking Pgh Sports Media are bringing up what a wasted pick he was.

And I guarantee you there will be a capable, solid if unspectacular RB backing up Bell next season. Even Tomlin isn't stupid enough to think Harris and Archer will be Bell's back-up and just pray he doesn't get hurt again. One will be had if not in F.A., probably in later rounds of The Draft.

[Ohio Profile]

I don't remember Archer being open too often. And when he was, the "fastest guy in last year's draft" got swallowed up pretty good. Same on kick returns, which has nothing to do with Ben liking big guys or not. He was an over reach by Colbert, plain and simple. Even the Kool-Aid drinking Pgh Sports Media are bringing up what a wasted pick he was.

And I guarantee you there will be a capable, solid if unspectacular RB backing up Bell next season. Even Tomlin isn't stupid enough to think Harris and Archer will be Bell's back-up and just pray he doesn't get hurt again. One will be had if not in F.A., probably in later rounds of The Draft.

76 You don't recall because Ben was not throwing his way... I am not talking about special team. There is a different story, if you see I didn't mention it or say it was smart to draft Archer when Ben as QB. Just look what happened to Sanders. 1404 receiving yards,5th in the NFL... His best season with Ben gave him half that number...

Regarding the RB I don't agree. No Capable RB will come knowing , as the entire world knows, that Bell will come off the field only in case of injury. We already have two rookie back up RB. Why should an experienced one come and sign a 4 year contract ? Even if you find one, will the team be willing to give a 4 year contract to a 27/28 year old RB ? Bell is 22... I Bet that when he will be 28 a very few team will want his service.

[SteelTank Profile]

One Problem in your analysis:
AB is 5'10 186
Sanders is 5'11 180

These guys are essentially the same size and both are on the smaller end size-wise of NFL WRs.

The problem with Ben/Archer is twofold:
1)Ben looks for AB way too much although AB gets open a lot. Still, he needs to distribute way more.
2)Archer was a projected late round pick - not a third round pick in a very deep draft class for Defensive players and WRs. Archer doesn't have anywhere near 3rd round talent.

Speed is great, but you need way more than that to succeed in the NFL.

One play to Archer that got called back in the playoffs doesn't indicate to me that the Steelers were smart for taking him in round 3.

[Steelers76 Profile]

Another problem with your analysis, Ohio; Justin Brown was released to make room for RB Ben Tate earlier in the week. Did you mean to say he kept targeting Bryant?

Re: The RB situation; Even in Colbert's wildest dreams, Archer was never meant to be a true, run between the tackles back. I think old Kevin envisioned him more a hybrid WR and return man. And this is all if he was what Colbert hoped he'd be, which he's not. Besides not being a true RB, he can't pass protect worth shit. We all saw that last weekend.

And sorry, not buying they won't bring in someone either through F.A. or the Draft to back-up Bell, regardless if he plays almost every offensive snap. Look at the teams left in the post-season. Most of them have a featured RB, but also a capable backup as well. Backups have no delusions they are going to come in and share the carry load where teams have top tier RBs.. That's why they are BACK-UPS. If your reasoning was true, no capable RBs would be playing for Dallas with Murray, Houston with Foster, or Green Bay with Lacey. But they do and are.

[Ohio Profile]

One Problem in your analysis:
AB is 5'10 186
Sanders is 5'11 180

These guys are essentially the same size and both are on the smaller end size-wise of NFL WRs.

The problem with Ben/Archer is twofold:
1)Ben looks for AB way too much although AB gets open a lot. Still, he needs to distribute way more.
2)Archer was a projected late round pick - not a third round pick in a very deep draft class for Defensive players and WRs. Archer doesn't have anywhere near 3rd round talent.

Speed is great, but you need way more than that to succeed in the NFL.

One play to Archer that got called back in the playoffs doesn't indicate to me that the Steelers were smart for taking him in round 3.

Just one problem with your analysis... I recall the Oakland Raiders taking with the eight Heyward Bey...

So ? NFL GMs are in love with speed. I am also but... You need to have the size. Brown is the exception. Not the rule. You need speedy guys with the body size of Bryant. If we watch the last game Ben underthrows all of the deep balls. It mean he and Archer will never connect with long balls. I agree with you that Ben looks mostly for AB. Problem for Archer is that all of his routes woud need quick throws... That is why I believe he was a wrong pick for us. Not only this year but in the future, unless something changes with Ben... We will have the pleasure of seeing the other midgets blossom ( Kansas City anyone ? )

[isfry Profile]

Just a thought, but whether or not Ben throws to someone probably has less to do with size and more to do with trust, which is earned.

[SteelThatDon'tRust Profile]

I'd be interested to hear who deserves more blame, Ben or Dick. Because at half time it was 10-9. Which means the offense could only get FGs. But the D did keep it together the first half, even if the 10 points came in an 8 minute span.

Ben just sucked. The Pats oline is not much better, but BRady was getting the ball out in 1.4 seconds. Ben? Hell no. He had a very very bad night. Wehn defenses bring 4 and drop 7, Ben often falls apart, which tells me his post snap reads are not what they need to be or his receivers can't get open. His receivers get open. That leaves....

Ben is my boy, hope he gets extended and retires a Steeler. But he was not good at all in that WC loss.