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ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby thesteelhammer » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:15 pm

They selected Terry Bradshaw for the Steelers.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3538393

Vote was also held.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=3590&action=1&question27024=107570

1) Who is the greatest player in Steelers history?


42.9% Terry Bradshaw, QB (1970-83):
Steelers all-time leading passer with 27,989 yards and two-time Super Bowl MVP.



24.9% Joe Greene, DT (1969-81):
''Mean Joe'' was a leader of the ''Steel Curtain'' defense.



11.5% Jack Lambert, LB (1974-84):
Lambert had 28 career interceptions and more than 1,400 tackles.



6.7% Franco Harris, RB (1972-83):
Steelers all-time leading rusher with 11,950 yards and MVP of Super Bowl IX.



4.4% Jerome Bettis, RB (1996-2005):
"The Bus" is second all time on the Steelers in rushing (10,571).



3.4% Mike Webster, C (1974-88):
A nine-time Pro Bowler and 10-time All-Pro selection.



3.0% Lynn Swann, WR (1974-82):
First wide receiver to earn Super Bowl MVP honors.



1.8% Jack Ham, LB (1971-82):
Regarded as one of the greatest outside linebackers.



0.9% Mel Blount, CB (1970-83):
Steelers all-time leader in interceptions with 57.



0.5% John Stallworth, WR (1974-87):
Second all time on the Steelers in receiving (8,723 yards).




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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby steelerette » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:58 pm

Congrats to each and every one of them. It is very well deserved. :cheers:

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby darthsteel » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:34 pm

I know no media outlet will put him on the list, but greg lloyd should always be on the top 5 list of all time stillers since he was the black n gold for a decade!

There may have been better athletes on the team like woodson ect... but there was no steeler more valuable to the team over the past 20 yrs then greg lloyd!

alot of the media also forgets he was the most dominant linebacker in the leage for a several yr stretch, the only thing that kep him out of the hall of fame was the injury!

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby trenches » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:43 pm

IMHO, Bettis does not compare to Webster. Bettis had an amazing career for a bruising back but I don't see the two in the same light...

The poll is not not surprising though since players that score TD's always rank higher in polls than those that don't.

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Postby Nel » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:03 pm

At least Bettis is below Franco, so there is a God.

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby BeavisFour » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:05 am

Gildong didn't make the list?? :o :o

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby relictele » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:42 am

An unscientific poll as they all are online but also an indication of how media presence sways public opinion.

I don't think you could find a player or coach from the 70s who would choose anyone but Joe Greene despite the loads of talent around him.

His influence and leadership on and off the field were without precedent and he could play a little football too.

Bradshaw deserves plenty of praise but even he would admit he ostracized himself during his playing days.

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby dirtydave61 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:55 am

How about dirty Ratbirds fans picking kicker Matt Stover instead of Ray Lewis in their poll. Totally ridiculous.

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby BeavisFour » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:37 pm

dirtydave61 wrote:How about dirty Ratbirds fans picking kicker Matt Stover instead of Ray Lewis in their poll. Totally ridiculous.


Kinda amusing that the fan's pick for best player is a kicker. Oh yeah, wasn't there also a guy by the name of Jonathan Odgen?

Skins picking Darrell Green over Thiesmann or Riggins probably has to do with recent HOF induction. Not that Green isn't deserving, it's just not the first name that comes to mind when one thinks Redskins.

Saints going with Hebert over Manning or Sam Mills? Hmm....

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Joe Greene set the tone.

Postby LambertoCincoOcho » Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:30 pm

I disagree. Mean Joe was the foundation the franchise rebuilt it's self on. Hell, Bradshaw wasn't even the starter for the first 4 or 5 games in 1974 the year we won our first Super Bowl. Joe Greene was a wrecking machine out of the gate. Teams feared Mean Joe Greene and he was the leader in the locker room that determined how things were going to be especially early on. Later in the 70's Bradshaw had matured and in fact was a "late bloomer". We won the first two Championships with Franco and the Steel Curtain anchored by Joe Greene. The last two Championships were won with veteran smarts on defense and the passing game. Swann and Stallworth elevated their game on the biggest stage in SB's 13 & 14 they were beautiful. My List and it wasn't easy.

1. Joe Greene ..attitude
2. Swann - SB 10 MVP
3. Bradshaw - 2 time SB MVP
4. Franco -SB 9 MVP
5. Lambert- Hailed from Buzzards Breath Wyoming
6. Blount - He made them change the rules
7. Stallworth - SB 13 & 14 Hero
8. Ham - Sound technician never out of position
9. Webster - He was always there R.I.P.
10. L.C. Greenwood -Those Gold Shoes were clean
11. Rocky -inspirational and gritty competitor

Post Steel Curtain team
1. Woodson -All Century
2. Bettis -Jumbro #36
3. Lloyd -Nasty
4. Big Ben -Most accurate Stiller passer ever
5. Hines Ward -All-Time Steeler WR
6. Dirt Dawson -A fixture
7. Louis Lipps -#83 was dangerous
8. Carnell Lake -Better than Donnie Shell
9. Willie Parker -Long TD Sprint sealed one for the thumb
10. Casey Hampton -Much better than Steed or G-Man. The best 3-4 nose in team history.

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby StillDodger » Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:46 am

dirtydave61 wrote:How about dirty Ratbirds fans picking kicker Matt Stover instead of Ray Lewis in their poll. Totally ridiculous.


Man, I'm not sure if he's the best K in the DIVISION..... :yes: Between Reed, Dawson, and Stover, it's a toss-up.

But then again, the water in Baltimore is a little suspect...... How they can pick a silly kicker over Ray Lewis....:suahhbs:
Whenever Tom Brady loses, it's always someone else's fault.

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby steelerette » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:43 pm

StillDodger wrote:But then again, the water in Baltimore is a little suspect...... How they can pick a silly kicker over Ray Lewis....:suahhbs:


:lol: I suppose we shouldn't expect anything less from Ratbirds fans. They are the worst in the NFL.

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby WoodsonOfSteel » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:50 pm

I suppose we shouldn't expect anything less from Ratbirds fans. They are the worst in the NFL.


I've lived in Texas all my life and am currently living in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

I will respectfully disagree with you and say Cowboys fans are the worst in the NFL. Whether it be their sheer ignorance of their own team or the Kool-aid powered bandwagon... It's sickening to see so many people 'hoot-n-holler' for a team they really couldn't tell you anything about. Unless of course they're losing (see seasons 2000-2002), then there's nothing to worry about as Cowboys fans don't exist. :celebrate:

Here's to hoping for another 5-11 season for Dallas!!! :sufu:

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby steelerette » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:59 pm

WoodsonOfSteel wrote:
I suppose we shouldn't expect anything less from Ratbirds fans. They are the worst in the NFL.


I've lived in Texas all my life and am currently living in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

I will respectfully disagree with you and say Cowboys fans are the worst in the NFL. Whether it be their sheer ignorance of their own team or the Kool-aid powered bandwagon... It's sickening to see so many people 'hoot-n-holler' for a team they really couldn't tell you anything about. Unless of course they're losing (see seasons 2000-2002), then there's nothing to worry about as Cowboys fans don't exist. :celebrate:

Here's to hoping for another 5-11 season for Dallas!!! :sufu:


Actually, I meant that Ratbird fans are the worst in terms of meanness, not ignorance, although they rank right up there in ignorance, as well. :lol:

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby Nick79 » Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:22 pm

Bradshaw is the right call. QB is always the most important position, maybe the '70s Steelers don't win 4 Super Bowls if they don't win the coin toss for Bradshaw in '70, just like they would have never won Super Bowl XL if they had drafted somoene other than Ben in '04.

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby J & L Steel » Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:34 pm

True that,Dick79 :sudancin: :sushootem: :suahhbs:

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby logjammin » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:01 pm

God dammit! I spent an hour typing a message on this thread, and got timed out and lost all the stuff I had typed. But what I was trying to say, basically, was

Jack fucking Lambert

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby #58 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:54 am

He might not be the franchise but when I think Steelers one name comes to mind.

JACK LAMBERT #58 :subngtowl:

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby logjammin » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:35 pm

eyes blazing, teeth missing, feet pumping before the play, just daring the other team to hike the ball

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Re: ESPN names each teams All-Time Franchise Player

Postby Polished Steel » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:17 pm

#58 wrote:He might not be the franchise but when I think Steelers one name comes to mind.

JACK LAMBERT #58 :subngtowl:




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